Joint Boards Articulation Commission
Student Transfer Committee

Meeting Summary Notes
September 28, 2001
OIT Metro
Portland, OR

Members Present
Dave Phillips, Clatsop Community College, Chair
Jim Arnold, Oregon University System
Mary Brau, Lane Community College
Jim Buch, University of Oregon (via phone)
Rod Diman, Portland State University
John Duarte, Oregon Institute of Technology
Mike Morgan, Chemeketa Community College
Glenda Tepper, Clackamas Community College
Diane Watson, Linn-Benton Community College
Elaine Yandle-Roth, Department of Community Colleges & Workforce Development


Dave Phillips called the meeting to order at 10:08 a.m.


1. Introductions and Announcements

Members introduced themselves.

Rod Diman indicated that he will no longer be available to attend Student Transfer Committee (STC) meetings as his role at Portland State University has changed. Diman has asked Terrel Rhodes, Vice Provost for Curriculum and Undergraduate Studies at PSU, to take his place.

Jim Arnold announced to the group that a memo from Vice Chancellor Shirley Clark will be sent out to OUS Provosts today (September 28th) which will request the implementation of two new transfer-related policies: (1) Credit for Prior Learning (CPL) and (2) a Credit Transfer Limitation Revision. The CPL policy will implement the recommendations coming from the work of the Joint Boards Articulation Commission, as finalized during Spring 2001. The new Credit Transfer Limitation will allow students at "Oregon University System institutions to transfer up to 124 lower-division credits from Oregon community colleges when those credits contribute appropriately to a baccalaureate degree program." This current policy modifies an old policy, in place since the early 1970s, that uses 108 credits as the upper limit for the number credits transferring to an OUS institution.

2. Minutes of the May 4, 2001 Meeting

The minutes of the May 2001 meeting were approved as submitted.

3. Status of Transfer Degree Proposals and Proposed AA/OT Modifications

Arnold reported that the JBAC 2000-01 Annual Report was delivered to the Joint Boards Working Group on September 21, 2001; the document included a description of the progress and proposals (about the AA/OT and possible AS/OT) made by the Joint Boards Articulation Commission (JBAC) and the STC last year. Part of the progress in the transfer degree area has been a consideration of the proposals by the community college Council of Instructional Administrators (CIA), the OUS Academic Council, and the Oregon Writing and English Advisory Committee (OWEAC). Arnold noted the particularly colorful comments offered by OWEAC; a further observation from Phillips that the current version of the AA/OT has a more strict writing requirement that the University of Oregon general education requirements led to a rich discussion about each of the areas of the AA/OT in the General Requirement and Distribution Requirement areas. The new suggested revisions for the AA/OT arising from the discussion are attached as a separate document (and available online at

4. Comparison of AA/OT Requirements

Elaine Yandle-Roth distributed a draft version of a comparison chart illustrating the differences in the AA/OT requirements among the Oregon community colleges. Yandle-Roth used college catalogs and advising guides as source material to construct this chart. This is a "best guess" first draft and all suggestions are welcome.

Of note is that some colleges still use sequence requirements and A-B lists. Also, some colleges are using studio courses in distribution requirements (contrary to original AA/OT intent). Some colleges list professional-technical courses, some do not.

This goal is to have this chart verified for accuracy by the chief academic officer at each community college.

5. Associate of Science/Oregon Transfer Degree(s)

Feedback solicited about the Associate of Science/Oregon Transfer degree in Business (AS/OT-Bus) has produced comments that the writing requirement may be not rigorous enough. Further, the suggestion has been made that the chairs of the respective business departments be gathered together to discuss this proposal. (This has been the intent/goal of JBAC and STC all along.) The Business chairs have a group that meets on a regular basis and Yandle-Roth and Arnold will attempt to get on their agenda at the earliest possible time. A discussion that paralleled the AA/OT deliberations, led to a modified proposal for the AS/OT in Business, as follows:

Proposal for Associate of Science/Oregon Transfer Degree in Business



General Education Components


Writing (121, 122, 123, 227)




Math (111, Algebra; 241, Calculus; 245 Math for Management, Social Science)


Social Sciences (including ECON201, 202)


Arts & Letters (chosen from at least two disciplines)


Biological or Physical Science (with laboratories)


General Education Credit Subtotal


Business-Specific Components


101, Intro to Business


211, 213, Financial, Managerial Accounting


131, Business Data Processing


230, Business Law (or other business elective)


Business Credit Subtotal



up to 13

Degree Credit Total



After proposing revisions to the Business degree, above, the STC membership turned to the question of whether or not other AS/OT degrees should be pursued. An example of another AS/OT would be one in Engineering. A prototype already exists in the form of the AS degree offered by Linn-Benton Community College -- which is tied directly to Oregon State University's engineering program. Is there need for a statewide degree in this area? Would we be solving a problem that doesn't really exist? Perhaps we should hold off for now while some more checking is done. Morgan will consult with engineering faculty at Chemeketa, Tepper will consult at Clackamas, and Duarte will check in with Umpqua (a good feeder community college for OIT).

The group agreed that the AS/OT-Bus proposal is solid as there are many business programs/courses at the community colleges and most OUS campuses have business majors.

When considering an AS/OT in computer science, the STC agreed to consult with the statewide computer science faculty group, which meets on a regular basis and could offer much-needed guidance. Yandle-Roth volunteered to find out who the current chair of this group is and explore the notion of an AS/OT with them.

In the area of chemistry, there are a number of common courses among the degree programs offered at OUS institutions. It would not be difficult to put together a common curriculum, however there is no organized chemistry group. A chemistry major could be accommodated in the present AA/OT degree.

9. Adjournment and Next Meeting

The meeting was adjourned at 1:55 p.m. The details of the next meeting are as follows:

Friday, March 1, 2002
10:00 a.m. - 2:00 p.m.
OIT Metro, Room 139





Prepared by Jim Arnold
OUS Academic Affairs
October 9, 2001