Joint Boards Articulation Commission

Meeting Summary Notes
November 17, 1999
Oregon Advanced Technology Center, Wilsonville, Oregon


Members Present
Jon Carnahan, Chair, Linn-Benton Community College
Phil Creighton, Eastern Oregon University
Liz Goulard, Clackamas Community College
Dave Phillips, Clatsop Community College
Ron Dexter, Oregon Department of Education
Mark Wahler, Concordia
Elaine Yandle-Roth, Community Colleges and Workforce Development


The meeting was called to order by Chair Jon Carnahan.

1. Summary Notes for October 14, 1999

The summary notes were approved as submitted.

2. Three to Four Credit Hour Issue

Dave Phillips and Liz Goulard reported on the discussion they had with the community college Council of Instructional Administrators (CIA), noting that the migration of courses from three to four credits did not seem to be a statewide issue. The focus of that discussion quickly became the problem with the paradigm shift from seat time to proficiencies. CIA members were asked to contact Jim Arnold or Elaine Yandle-Roth with name, course number, and transfer institution if any problems were identified. Elaine was asked to send a formal request for information to the CIA and community college Council of Student Services Administrators (CSSA) listserves and to tell Mary Brau that it is an issue the JBAC will track this year and will review again in the spring.

3. 1999-2000 Work Plan

Elaine noted that Cam Preus-Braly, Commissioner for the Department of Community Colleges and Workforce Development, would be attending the December JBAC meeting to share her perspective on work plan issues. Joe Cox, Oregon University System Chancellor, will be unable to attend. Ron Dexter volunteered to see if Stan Bunn, State Superintendent of Public Instruction is available to join the meeting.

It was agreed that monitoring of "A Plan for Course and Credit Transfer..." would be an ongoing agenda item.

Elaine will contact Marilyn Kolodziejczyk to see if there is data available for the December 10,1999 counselor conference packet and to schedule a presentation to the JBAC. It was suggested later in the meeting that this discussion also include research which is being done by the Portland Metro Area Consortium. Janine Allen from Portland State University and Dan Walleri from Mt. Hood Community College were recommended for this report and discussion.

Review of Student Services Action Team (SSAT) recommendations should be scheduled throughout the year beginning with financial aid and residency. Electronic transfer of student data and directory information are topics members would like to schedule for discussion as well.

Credit for Prior Learning recommendations should be targeted for review at the January meeting.

Topics suggested for February include the SSAT recommendation on Satisfactory Student Progress, Professional Technical (PT) course transfer and PT teacher training,

Members noted the need to learn more and to have a broader policy discussion about current collaborative efforts such as the ONE (Oregon Network for Education) Common Course Marketplace. Implications for transferability of courses should be identified.

Ron Dexter conveyed his strong interest in PT teacher preparation for both K-12 and community college sectors, noting a group met earlier in November to connect and start the discussion and would meet again on December 3 at the Oregon Advanced Technology Center. David Myton from the Teacher Standards and Practices Commission (TSPC) has been invited. Group members include Dick Swanson from the Oregon Institute of Technology (OIT) and Mark Merickel from Oregon State University (OSU). An estimate has been made that 3,000 teachers will be needed in the next five years. Elaine recommended involving Holly Zanville from the Chancellor's Office and volunteered to contact her. The OSU On-line baccalaureate degree and WOU's (Western Oregon University) distance delivered degree were noted. Phil Creighton recommended talking with Mike Jaeger about the EOU/BMCC/TVCC efforts. Jon Carnahan noted the fit with the JBAC mission and creation of additional options for students moving between our systems. The possibility of a PT package similar to the AA-OT was suggested. Dave Phillips noted that 12 PT credits which can be a part of the AA-OT and that some universities take up to 24 credits of PT course work. The key is baccalaureate degree requirements.

Ron noted the problem of making K-16 connections in the development of a statewide distance education plan. Scheduling the Department of Administrative Services (DAS) and the ONE project, especially as they relate to provision of early collegiate options was a suggested topic for February or March. It is intended that it be a time for members to learn, to see how efforts fit together and to identify implications.

4. Early Options Implications for JBAC

How to expedite faster passage of students through the K-16 system, especially post-secondary education, should be the focus of this effort. A strong push will be needed during the next legislative session. It was noted that the true level of community college activity with high schools was not apparent in the Early Options Study presented to the Joint Boards of Education in November 1998. Ron noted that the Associated Oregon Industries (AOI) had good intentions in pushing their bill. They were coming at it from a workforce perspective and trying to help kids who are bored in high school. One of the issues revolves around equity in access to high quality courses in high schools across the state. Carefully connected curriculum is critical. He is worried about the current lack of investment in professional technical education in Oregon high schools. Community college capacity issues were noted by both Ron and Liz. Dave noted possible loss of regional center services caused by a decline in student population in Seaside and the Education Service District's cut in funding. Liz noted that the Certificate of Advanced Mastery can not happen without high school professional technical opportunities.


Prepared by Elaine Yandle-Roth
Community Colleges and Workforce Development